DevForce Community Forum : Remote Persistence http://www.ideablade.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; DevForce Community Forum : DevForce Classic : Remote Persistence Wed, 10 Jun 2026 12:53:25 -700 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:58:57 -700 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.69 360 www.ideablade.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1393 DevForce Community Forum http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_images/IdeaBlade_logo_tm.png http://www.ideablade.com/forum/ Remote Persistence : Works! Thanks :) http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5048#5048 Author: smi-mark
Subject: 1393
Posted: 28-Jul-2009 at 12:58pm

Works! Thanks :)]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:58:57 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5048#5048 Remote Persistence : Perfect! I will try it out soon... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5047#5047 Author: smi-mark
Subject: 1393
Posted: 28-Jul-2009 at 11:59am

Perfect! I will try it out soon and let you know.

Thanks for the help Kim!
]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:59:07 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5047#5047 Remote Persistence : Thanks, that cleared things up. The... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5044#5044 Author: kimj
Subject: 1393
Posted: 28-Jul-2009 at 10:14am

Thanks, that cleared things up.
 
The problem is due to changes in how the ILoginCredential serializes.  If you mark your custom LoginManagerCredential class as Serializable this will fix the problem.
 
In 3.6.7, to fix other problems, we now serialize the ILoginCredential when storing it in the SessionBundle, so the ILoginCredential implementation must now be serializable.  The standard LoginCredential is decorated with the Serializable attribute, and we should be documenting somewhere - although a quick check isn't finding where - that this is always required for a credential, not just when using a BOS.
 
(The reason you see a remote connection attempt is because error handling for serialization exceptions thrown during certain calls, like Login, assumes that this occurred while communicating with the BOS, so reconnect logic is tried.) 
]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:14:58 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5044#5044 Remote Persistence : Hi Kim,Sent to that email with... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5043#5043 Author: smi-mark
Subject: 1393
Posted: 27-Jul-2009 at 1:58pm

Hi Kim,

Sent to that email with "3.7 LoginManager Issue" as subject

Thanks!
]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:58:01 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5043#5043 Remote Persistence : Setting the CurrentPrincipal shouldn't... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5032#5032 Author: kimj
Subject: 1393
Posted: 25-Jul-2009 at 5:15pm

Setting the CurrentPrincipal shouldn't be an issue, but helps explain why the new username is showing in the log. 
 
How about your ILoginCredential - do you by any chance have a PersistenceManager field or property defined in it?
 
I'd still really like to see your LoginManager ...
]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:15:08 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5032#5032 Remote Persistence : Could it be because our login... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5031#5031 Author: smi-mark
Subject: 1393
Posted: 25-Jul-2009 at 5:09pm

Could it be because our login manger is explicitly setting the Thread.CurrentPrincipal? All it is doing is setting the principal and returning a 'UserPrincipal' object (Which is just a basic implementation of IPrincipal) with the credentials contained inside.

If you think that could be the issue I could upgrade back to 3.7 again and try.
]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:09:30 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5031#5031 Remote Persistence : Very curious. For one, it's... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5030#5030 Author: kimj
Subject: 1393
Posted: 25-Jul-2009 at 4:40pm

Very curious. 
 
For one, it's odd to see the UI binders message right in the middle of all of this.  Is this application multi-threaded?
 
For another, DevForce doesn't set the Thread.CurrentPrincipal until after the Login completes, yet we see the new principal ("sa") here in the final trace messages apparently occuring during login.
 
Can you post the LoginManager code here, or email to mailto:ideabladesupporttrack@ideablade.com?
]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:40:05 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5030#5030 Remote Persistence : Hi Kim,Thank's for the reply... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5027#5027 Author: smi-mark
Subject: 1393
Posted: 24-Jul-2009 at 9:04pm

Hi Kim,

Thank's for the reply I am using a custom credential yes, but as the login is all done client side (The login manager just builds the connection string based on users choice of windows/sql authentication). I'm simply calling login with the credential, and that doesn't return - it throw's that exception saying it cant connect to "//:443" (I don't have a host specified in the config file and remotepersistence is set to false). RIGHT before the login call I did an assert of the RemotePersitenceEnabled and the PersistenceServiceOption which are set to false/local respectively.

It's very strange!!
]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:04:12 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5027#5027 Remote Persistence : There weren't really all... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5026#5026 Author: kimj
Subject: 1393
Posted: 24-Jul-2009 at 7:15pm

There weren't really all that many changes between versions 3.6.6 and 3.6.7 and none should have had anything to do with the remoting layer.  Are you using a custom ILoginCredential with your LoginManager? The ILoginCredential now serializes differently, but that wouldn't seem to cause the issue you're seeing.
 
Are all the log messages for username="sa" generated AFTER the pm.Login call completes, or are they coming from within your LoginManager code?
 
There really shouldn't be anything that would cause the remoting code to be spontaneously entered.  Here are a couple of things to look for -
 
 - Are you using the RemotingPersistenceService anywhere within your code - accessing the RemoteInstance property or calling Reconnect()?
 
- Do you modify the in-memory IdeaBladeConfig at any time?
 
- Are you using reflection to access the RemotingPersistenceServerProxy to call Reconnect?
 
 
]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:15:49 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5026#5026 Remote Persistence : Hi,We have just recently upgraded... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1393&PID=5025#5025 Author: smi-mark
Subject: 1393
Posted: 24-Jul-2009 at 2:40pm

Hi,

We have just recently upgraded to the latest 3.6.7.1 release. No matter what settings I use it seems to still think I'm using remote persistence. I have even overidden the PersistenceManager create to ONLY use Local not even Default service and NO MATTER WHAT it still thinks it should be connecting to a BOS!


 username="Mark-Laptop\Mark" source="IdeaBlade.Persistence.DataSourceResolver:.ctor">Probed for 'IDataSourceKeyResolver' and found Spindlemedia.Utils.LoginManager.LoginManagerDataSourceKeyResolver</entry>
 username="Mark-Laptop\Mark" source="IdeaBlade.Persistence.PersistenceManager:.ctor">Loaded IdeaBlade.Persistence.RemotingPersistenceServerProxy</entry>
 username="Mark-Laptop\Mark" source="IdeaBlade.Persistence.RemotingPersistenceService:get_LocalInstance">PersistenceService created</entry>
 username="Mark-Laptop\Mark" source="IdeaBlade.Persistence.RemotingPersistenceServerProxy:GetPersistenceServer">Created local PersistenceService</entry>
 username="Mark-Laptop\Mark" source="System.RuntimeMethodHandle:_InvokeConstructor">PersistenceServer created for DataSourceExtension: [None]</entry>
 username="Mark-Laptop\Mark" source="IdeaBlade.Persistence.DataSourceResolver:.ctor">Probed for 'IDataSourceKeyResolver' and found Spindlemedia.Utils.LoginManager.LoginManagerDataSourceKeyResolver</entry>
 username="Mark-Laptop\Mark" source="IdeaBlade.Persistence.Server.SessionManager:GetPersistenceLoginManager">Probed for 'IPersistenceLoginManager' and found Spindlemedia.Utils.LoginManager.LoginManager</entry>
username="Mark-Laptop\Mark" source="IdeaBlade.UI.WinForms.DotnetControls.DataGridViewBinderMap:.ctor">Loading UI binders from IdeaBlade.UI.WinForms.DotnetControls</entry>
username="sa" source="IdeaBlade.Persistence.RemotingPersistenceService:get_RemoteInstance">Trying automatic remoting configuration using Spindlemedia.SMIGL.UI.EXE.config</entry>
username="sa" source="IdeaBlade.Persistence.RemotingPersistenceService:GetRemoteInstance">PersistenceService not found in config file.</entry>
username="sa" source="IdeaBlade.Persistence.RemotingPersistenceService:get_RemoteInstance">Trying programmatic remoting configuration using IdeaBlade.ibconfig</entry>

As you can see it starts off using a LocalInstance through my credentials, and then it appears to have logged in but then that happens!! This is all off of a .Login() call.

I had upgraded a couple weeks ago and had the same problem. Downgrading to 3.6.6.1 FIXES the problem so something has to have changed. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Mark
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