DevForce Community Forum : Installing Devforce without Visual Studio http://www.ideablade.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; DevForce Community Forum : DevForce 2010 : Installing Devforce without Visual Studio Mon, 13 Apr 2026 02:26:42 -700 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:28:18 -700 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.69 360 www.ideablade.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3588 DevForce Community Forum http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_images/IdeaBlade_logo_tm.png http://www.ideablade.com/forum/ Installing Devforce without Visual Studio : If you don't have things... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14248#14248 Author: mgood
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Posted: 21-Aug-2012 at 4:28pm

If you don't have things in the GAC, than copy local needs to be true, so the assembly gets deployed and found at runtime. That is for WPF. Silverlight doesn't have a GAC, so copy local needs to be true in order for the assembly to end up in the XAP.
 
How .NET resolves an assembly is documented. Just google for assembly binding. DevForce and Cocktail don't do anything different.
 
Yes, Visual Studio acts up if you reference an assembly from your solution folder and it also finds the same version of the assembly in the GAC. If you set specific version to false, it falls back to the GAC. In my opinion it's a bug, but unlikely to be fixed.
 
]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:28:18 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14248#14248 Installing Devforce without Visual Studio : Everything is switched over to... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14245#14245 Author: JohnBloom
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Posted: 21-Aug-2012 at 11:27am

Everything is switched over to looking at a folder in our repository for the libs. It worked fine. 

I had to add a newer version of System.Runtime.Serialization to the GAC on our build machine but I guess I could have added that to the project as well. Not sure why I had to do that but again I like to mention all of my steps. 

Also if you have DevForce installed and you set the "specific version" attribute to false on the reference it will switch the dlls to the installed ones rather than the ones that were referenced from the folder.


]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:27:19 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14245#14245 Installing Devforce without Visual Studio : Ok, this is just to confirm that... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14244#14244 Author: JohnBloom
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Posted: 21-Aug-2012 at 6:57am

Ok, this is just to confirm that putting the libraries into our svn repository and referencing them there does not violate any licensing agreement. And that it should work fine with Cocktail. (I am guessing that Cocktail relies on copy local being set to true?)

This would make updating to the latest dlls easier since I wouldnt have to send out an email and get everybody to upgrade their machines. Also it will help a ton with backwards compatibility. As of right now if I want to check out code from last week the code wont work because my version of DevForce is different. 

This will also set us up perfect if/when you guys move to nuget for your distribution.

I am not sure how you would be able to track how many users are checking out the code, though. We are a very ethical company so it wont be an issue I am just curious how that would work for all cases. 


]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2012 06:57:14 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14244#14244 Installing Devforce without Visual Studio : Originally posted by JohnBloomThat... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14243#14243 Author: mgood
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Posted: 20-Aug-2012 at 6:16pm

Originally posted by JohnBloom

That would work awesome. Does Cocktail need the libraries to be in the GAC?
No, it doesn't.
]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:16:12 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14243#14243 Installing Devforce without Visual Studio : Yes but then I lose the magic... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14237#14237 Author: JohnBloom
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Posted: 20-Aug-2012 at 2:20pm

Yes but then I lose the magic and ease of nuget and thus create a lot of work for myself because I am too stubborn to put VS on my build machine. BAH! I will have to think about this one. Maybe I will just deploy them to the GAC myself. :)]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:20:19 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14237#14237 Installing Devforce without Visual Studio : I believe Cocktail does rely... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14236#14236 Author: sbelini
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Posted: 20-Aug-2012 at 2:10pm

I believe Cocktail does rely on DevForce being on the GAC, but since it's open source, you could simply update it to reference them locally too.]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:10:34 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14236#14236 Installing Devforce without Visual Studio : That would work awesome. Does... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14235#14235 Author: JohnBloom
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Posted: 20-Aug-2012 at 1:57pm

That would work awesome. Does Cocktail need the libraries to be in the GAC?]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:57:55 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14235#14235 Installing Devforce without Visual Studio : Hi John,Visual Studio is a... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14234#14234 Author: sbelini
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Posted: 20-Aug-2012 at 1:36pm

Hi John,
 
Visual Studio is a requirement for the current installation of DevForce 2010.
 
However, you don't really need to install DevForce either. (assuming your projects don't expect to find DevForce assemblies in the GAC, but rather in a local folder)
In addition, as long as you are not regenerating your models, you won't have any licensing issues.
 
Silvio.
 
]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:36:42 -700 http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14234#14234 Installing Devforce without Visual Studio : Is it possible to install Devforce... http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3588&PID=14233#14233 Author: JohnBloom
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Posted: 20-Aug-2012 at 1:23pm

Is it possible to install Devforce without installing Visual Studio? 

We have switched to nunit for testing so we no longer need MsTest. With the recent release of "Windows 7 SDK and .Net 4" in May of last year we can install MsBuild separate from Visual Studio. With those developments we no longer need a copy of Visual Studio on our build server. However, DevForce still requires that VS be installed in order to run the installer. Is there an SDK like installer similar to what MS does? Something that will put the dlls in the GAC but will not need to coordinate with VS? 

I was really happy to get VS uninstalled from our build server in order to make our build server that much simpler in case we need to reproduce it from scratch or if a new developer needs to maintain it. Now I am going to have to install VS just so I can update to the next version of DevForce!

Is there a solution for this?

PS IMO nuget is the best option of all. 


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