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   <title>[SOLVED] Security Application Block : Glad that you got that going!...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11-Mar-2008 at 11:19am<br /><br />Glad that you got that going!&nbsp; Have fun!!<DIV>Bill</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=92" rel="nofollow">HFloyd</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11-Mar-2008 at 11:11am<br /><br />Thanks, Bill &lt;<a href="member_profile.asp?PF=24&amp;FID=21" target="_blank">Linguinut</a>&gt;, for your idea.<br><br>I received an email from Bill Jensen at IdeaBlade support who said the following:<br><br><font color="#0000ff">The inability to find 'Microsoft.Practices.EnterpriseLibrary.ExceptionHandling is a long-standing problem that we’ve had a hard time finding.&nbsp; It’s a red herring.&nbsp; The real issue is contained in the exception ex:<br><br>{"Could not load file or assembly 'IdeaBlade.Persistence, Version=3.5.5.1, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=287b5094865421c0' or one of its dependencies)<br><br>This indicates that the skeleton still contains a reference to DevForce 3.5.5.1 (the version it was originally built on) with specific version set to true.<br><br>Go through your references to IdeaBlade.Persistence for each project and be sure that the SpecificVersion property is set to false.</font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#0000ff"><br><br>Also, whenever you have rebuilt the CabanaLib solution, you should copy the entire contents of CabanaDevExCS\Lib to your application’s \Lib folder, replacing the previous contents.&nbsp; This might account tor problem #1 above as well.</font><o:p></o:p></span></font><br><br>So it seems that takes care of my current issue, now on to the other error messages <img src="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Wink" /><br><br>Best wishes, <br><br>Heather<br><br>]]>
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   <title>[SOLVED] Security Application Block : Heather,  Have you alreadycopied...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06-Mar-2008 at 2:23pm<br /><br />Heather,<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Have you already&nbsp;copied the 3.1 assemblies into the&nbsp;DF/CAB folder where they are currently stored?&nbsp; Not quite sure if that will help.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Bill</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=92" rel="nofollow">HFloyd</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06-Mar-2008 at 1:36pm<br /><br />Thanks, Bill, for your reply.<br><br>I made the changes to my app.config file in the Shell project, but am still getting similar errors, so I hope to hear back from their support people soon.<br><br>Best wishes, <br><br>Heather<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06-Mar-2008 at 12:57pm<br /><br />Hi Heather,<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Sorry, but our company&nbsp;is no longer&nbsp;developing&nbsp;with IdeaBlade and CAB.&nbsp; It has been several months since I had my head inside one of these errors, so my recollection of this is quite cloudy, at best.&nbsp; I do not think the security application block will easily be integrated in a DF/CAB environment, if at all.&nbsp; The file I worked on to get as far as I did was the app.config file.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Take care,</DIV><DIV>Bill</DIV><DIV><a href="mailto:bcunnien@spiratex.com" target="_blank">bcunnien@spiratex.com</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=92" rel="nofollow">HFloyd</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06-Mar-2008 at 12:35pm<br /><br />Hi Bill &lt;<a href="member_profile.asp?PF=24&amp;FID=21" target="_blank">Linguinut</a>&gt;, <br><br>I am attempting to setup an application using the "CAB Application Wizard". I was able to setup the app using the Wizard, update the DB connection info, and successfully BUILD the app, but when I Run it, I get a similar error:<br><br><b>An error occurred creating the configuration section handler for exceptionHandling: Could not load file or assembly 'Microsoft.Practices.EnterpriseLibrary.ExceptionHandling, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies. The located assembly's manifest definition does not match the assembly reference. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80131040) (C:\Documents and Settings\Heather\My Documents\Visual Studio 2005\Projects\HSAdminApp\bin\Debug\HS.HSAdminApp.Shell.exe.config line 17)</b><br><br>I think this might be similar to your issue, but I'm not sure where I should make that change to "<font color="#0000ff" size="2">Version=3.1.0.0</font>". Could you let me know which file location(s) I need to do that in? <br><br>I haven't done any customizing of the app other than what the Wizard does, and updating the DB connection info.<br><br>Thanks so much for your help with this.<br><br>Heather<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26-Oct-2007 at 3:29pm<br /><br />I&nbsp;made the statement in frustration.&nbsp; I am literally pouring my life into this app.&nbsp; The fact that few use these forums is quite&nbsp;discouraging to me.&nbsp; And, it should be a rebuke to IdeaBlade.&nbsp; Where are the "others" that are building CAB apps with DevForce (or just plain using DevForce)?&nbsp; Do no other customers of IdeaBlade have anything to add, in this case,&nbsp;about the Enterprise Library and how to use it?<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Maybe the call volume in your tech support department is through the roof.&nbsp; Perhaps that is the reason the forums are so lightly populated.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Maybe IdeaBlade is setting their sights elsewhere and leaving CAB behind.&nbsp; No new resources are being added to it.&nbsp; That says a lot.&nbsp; Since it is just you, from IdeaBlade, who answers CAB related questions (and you are not a tech support guy, I don't think), I wonder what the plan really is inside your offices.&nbsp; Man, do not go on vacation for a week!&nbsp; I mean it.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Hopefully, you can appreciate my perspective.&nbsp; There are serious questions popping up in my head.&nbsp; Do I continue to pour my working life into DF/CAB?&nbsp;&nbsp;If the user support is not there and IdeaBlade support is limited to one person, then my outlook is bleak, at best.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=97" rel="nofollow">Bill Jensen</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26-Oct-2007 at 2:59pm<br /><br /><P>Thanks for your effort in solving this.&nbsp; It's not an area we're putting resources into right now.</P><DIV>Please don't delete threads.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>This is a public forum.&nbsp; Don't assume that just because you're the only one "talking" that no one is listening.&nbsp; Moreover, the forum is accessible to search engines, so you may be helping some poor soul with the same problem in the future.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Thanks,</DIV><DIV>Bill J.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26-Oct-2007 at 2:11pm<br /><br /><DIV>I changed the version and public key token of the logging and exception handling assemblies in the XML file.&nbsp; I re-ran the configuration tool and that seemed to have eliminated the above errors.&nbsp; Then, I got another one:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Invalid TraceListenerData type in configuration 'listenerDataType="Microsoft.Practices.EnterpriseLibrary.Logging.Configuration.FormattedEventLogTraceListenerData, Microsoft.Practices.EnterpriseLibrary.Logging, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null"'.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>So, wherever I saw:</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null</DIV></FONT><BR>I changed it to: <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Version=3.1.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=<FONT color=#0000ff size=2>b03f5f7f11d50a3a</FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><FONT color=#000000>Wow!&nbsp; The configuration tool lit up like a Christmas Tree!!</FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><FONT color=#000000></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><FONT color=#000000>It saves.&nbsp; I can edit the rules.&nbsp; Done.</FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><FONT color=#000000></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><FONT color=#000000>Technically, I could delete this entire thread, since I was the only one "talking".&nbsp; However, someone else may need this (I rather doubt it, though), so I will leave it here.&nbsp; The bottom line is that the new Enterprise Library 3.1&nbsp;is strongly typed, so references to it must reflect that.&nbsp; I think that is what happened here.</FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><FONT color=#000000></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><FONT color=#000000>&#091;Edit&#093; Bill J. did chip in on this thread a couple of times, so I actually cannot delete it.&nbsp; It just seems like I was the only one "talking".&nbsp; Whoever reads this...I hope it helps answer your questions.</FONT></DIV></FONT><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Linguinut - 26-Oct-2007 at 2:25pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26-Oct-2007 at 1:30pm<br /><br />Perhaps another question to ask would be, why doesn't any Microsoft.Practices.EnterpriseLibrary assemblies appear in the GAC?&nbsp; It looks like these errors are generated because the references are related to the GAC entries.&nbsp; Unless I am reading these wrong.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If they do not need to be in the GAC, then does anyone know the proper XML syntax to reference them elsewhere?</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26-Oct-2007 at 1:00pm<br /><br /><P>Argh!!&nbsp; No matter what I do, I am not able to use the Enterprise Library Configuration tool.&nbsp; All I want to do is add authorization rules.&nbsp; Here are the errors that I get if I try to do this:</P><P>Error&nbsp;5:&nbsp;An error occurred creating the configuration section handler for exceptionHandling: Could not load file or assembly 'Microsoft.Practices.EnterpriseLibrary.ExceptionHandling, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.</P><DIV>Error&nbsp;6:&nbsp;Could not load file or assembly 'Microsoft.Practices.EnterpriseLibrary.ExceptionHandling, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Error&nbsp;7:&nbsp;An error occurred creating the configuration section handler for loggingConfiguration: Could not load file or assembly 'Microsoft.Practices.EnterpriseLibrary.Logging, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Error&nbsp;8:&nbsp;Could not load file or assembly 'Microsoft.Practices.EnterpriseLibrary.Logging, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.<BR></DIV><DIV>Please help.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>[SOLVED] Security Application Block : Looks like I can perform this...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23-Oct-2007 at 5:25pm<br /><br />Looks like I can perform this surgery without too many complications, then.&nbsp; Thanks for the info.&nbsp; I keep trying to get back to this but so many other things are captivating my attention lately.&nbsp; I will keep this alive until I finish.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=97" rel="nofollow">Bill Jensen</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19-Oct-2007 at 2:39pm<br /><br />We have no good reason and would like to get rid of the unneeded ones too.&nbsp; Let us know if you have any success.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Bill J.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19-Oct-2007 at 10:11am<br /><br />Bill, would you or Ward please explain why *all* Enterprise Library assemblies were thrown into the LIB folder regardless of whether they were used by you or not?&nbsp; I am going to delete a gob of them so I can utilize the security functions of the Enterprise Library (especially, rule provider).&nbsp; If I do this, it is possible that I could mess something up.&nbsp; Later today, I am going to bite the bullet and move ahead.&nbsp; It would just be nice to get your thinking on this so I am not circumventing a valid process.&nbsp; Thank you. <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Linguinut - 19-Oct-2007 at 11:01am</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12-Oct-2007 at 1:00pm<br /><br />Of course, what sounds quite simple turns out to be a nightmare in the DF/CAB world.&nbsp; Not only&nbsp;are the security assemblies involved, but so are the exception handling and logging assemblies.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Also, the Enterprise Library Configuration editor wants to load v2 assemblies.&nbsp; It looks like v3.1 assemblies are existing in the LIB folder.&nbsp; I am doubting that it will make any difference; however, once I get the v2's in there, then I should be able to swap the 3.1's in after that.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>That's my plan.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Now, what was the reason for including all of the assemblies, even though they are not used?&nbsp; I do not want this to come back and haunt me.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Thanks,</DIV><DIV>Bill</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11-Oct-2007 at 10:40am<br /><br />I am going to&nbsp;delete the assemblies related to security from the LIB folder, then update my app.config.&nbsp; I will attempt this, then report back here with my results.]]>
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   <title>[SOLVED] Security Application Block : I see the assemblies in the LIB...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10-Oct-2007 at 1:05pm<br /><br /><P>I see the assemblies in the LIB folder; however, how would I update the app.config to see these assemblies rather than attempt to add it again to the project?&nbsp; Thanks!</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=97" rel="nofollow">Bill Jensen</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10-Oct-2007 at 11:54am<br /><br /><P>The SecurityApplicationBlock in included in Cabana because Ward included&nbsp;all the dlls&nbsp;from the EnterpriseLibrary.&nbsp; We don't actually use it in Cabana, so&nbsp;I can't&nbsp;really offer any suggestions.</P><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>Bill J.]]>
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   <title>[SOLVED] Security Application Block : I want to add a rule provider...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.ideablade.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=24" rel="nofollow">Linguinut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 483<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09-Oct-2007 at 10:04am<br /><br />I want to add a rule provider to my application.&nbsp; When I went to add the security application block to the app.config (since it was not there), I was alerted to the fact that it already exists.&nbsp; Where is the security block from the Enterprise Library implemented?&nbsp; Can I create/access a ruleprovider from within my modules? <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Linguinut - 26-Oct-2007 at 2:47pm</span>]]>
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