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New CAB Version???

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Category: DevForce
Forum Name: DevForce Classic
Forum Discription: For .NET 2.0
URL: http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=744
Printed Date: 10-Jun-2026 at 7:09pm


Topic: New CAB Version???
Posted By: BillG
Subject: New CAB Version???
Date Posted: 27-Mar-2008 at 8:40am
When will IdeaBlade be releasing a new version of CAB, particularly one that works properly with VS 2008 without having to do a lot of manual work?  I no longer have VS 2005 on my machines so the particular thread that referred to having a structure like VS 2005, I can no longer produce.
 
Bill
 


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Posted By: Bill Jensen
Date Posted: 03-May-2008 at 12:20pm
It's coming.  We're in final testing now.
 
Meanwhile, you could try creating a folder named
 
Visual Studio 2005
 
in your My Documents folder.
 
Then install the CAB Wizards.
 
Then follow the procedure described here:
 
http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=730 - http://www.ideablade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=730
 
I won't guarantee this will work, but you could try.
 
Bill J.

Posted By: garydale
Date Posted: 24-May-2008 at 3:46pm
Hi Bill (Jensen),
 
Are you now able to give a more precise date as to the availability of a VS2008 version of IdeaBalde Cab?
 
Regards
 
Gary

Posted By: garydale
Date Posted: 05-Jun-2008 at 1:35am
Come on guys, surely there's some news on this you can share? Even if it's bad - we need an answer so we can make plans!

Posted By: garydale
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2008 at 3:42pm
OK, I'm betting that either:
 
1.) resources to finish off IdeaBlade.Cab for VS2008 have had to move to another project
 
and/or
 
2.) some showstopper/s have been found.
 
Still, I would have expected something after being in "final testing" on May 3rd, even if it's a warning that there's a delay.
 
Please, please, let us know what's happening with CAB for VS2008!
 
Many of us will have to work winforms and CAB/SCSF for years to come, even though WPF and Prism are in the works.
 
Many thanks
 

Posted By: garydale
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2008 at 3:48pm
Or, of course, you are adapting IdeaBlade.Cab and Cabana to work with DevForce EF...?

Posted By: DjStitch
Date Posted: 11-Nov-2008 at 4:42am
Yesterday I opened a new thread ..... but sadly there where no reply.

I think it is time to move on and do the CAB utilities ourself ...... the thing is I bet you by the time that i'm in the middele of my development, another version will be out and I would have done all that work for nothing.

But I gues that is how it is going at Idea Blade ............................ No reponse

Posted By: garydale
Date Posted: 11-Nov-2008 at 6:54am
My understanding is that CAB is dead and that a new, Silverlight based product based upon the Composit Application Guidance for WPF and Silverlight, previously codenamed Prism, is being developed and will be a paid-for product rather than a free addition like Cabana. This product will work with DevForce EF.
 
Whilst I'm not keen on having to pay money for the thing, being only a very small rural school, such an IdeaBlade product will undoubtedly be more successful and importantly, at least for the few who still, hopefully, check on this forum it will be revenue producing and therefore something that IdeaBlade can afford to properly support.
 
Giving away Cabana and its attendant bits and pieces was, whilst laudable not sustainable, probably due to the perceived or otherwise low DevForce sales pull through.
 
The big problem with CAB/SCSF and Cabana was their complexity for the small IT shops who have few people and even fewer funds.
 
My brief look at Prism would suggest it is easier to begin to use albeit with the steeper WPF/Silverlight learning curve.
 
It will be interesting to see the Silverlight based product to replace Cabana...
 
Regards
 
Gary

Posted By: jeffdoolittle
Date Posted: 11-Nov-2008 at 8:31am
I suggest you check out Jeremy Miller's excellent post on how to "Build your Own CAB".  It outlines many of the principles behind a Composite UI approach to building applications:

http://codebetter.com/blogs/jeremy.miller/archive/2007/07/25/the-build-your-own-cab-series-table-of-contents.aspx

You can take many of the principles that Jeremy explains in his article and use them with the Dependency Inversion Container of your choice (Unity, StructureMap, Windsor, etc.).  Also, Microsoft has released PRISM (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc785479.aspx) which provides guidance for building composite apps with WPF.   Unfortunately, WPF adoption is still incredibly difficult, but Brian Noyes has posted some bits (http://www.softinsight.com/bnoyes/2008/10/13/CompositeExtensionsForWindowsForms.aspx) for using PRISM with WinForms.  Of course if you want to adopt WPF, then PRISM is already well positioned for you.

With these tools in hand, and with CABANA as a reference, this approach provides a way forward for building composite applications.

--Jeff


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